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By Deborah White, About.com Guide to US Liberal Politics since 2005

CNN Debate in Las Vegas: Tainted by the Hillary Advantage

Friday November 16, 2007
The CNN Democratic debate held on November 15, 2007 in Las Vegas was a quasi-prize fight, complete with ringside announcer and weird whispered voice-over commentary, in which moderator Wolf Blitzer took every conceivable opportunity to squelch actual debate among the candidates.

Genuine discussion occasionally broke out only because the candidates ignored Blitzer's obsessive need to control every utterance and his anti-informative insistence on "YES or NO" answers. (The good news is that the questons were usually relevant, unlike certain horrific MSNBC debates. )

But that was hardly the oddest part of this so-called impartial debate. The oddest part of this odd political show was CNN's obvious stacking of the fight judges with pro-Clintonistas: two former Clinton staffers and the spouse of a former Clinton staffer. And for good measure, two Republicans.

But even odder: Hillary Clinton doesn't need to have the deck stacked by CNN or anyone. Sen. Clinton is a strong leader with impressive experience, progressive ideas and an impeccable track record.

But then again, she also doesn't need hubby Bill defending his little woman on the campaign trail. Or planted questioners. Or, as newly seen at the debate, planted booers. (Much more on Hillary's booing supporters at the end of this column.)

Proud to Be a Democrat
What struck me most about the seven participants in the CNN debate in Las Vegas was how proud I am to be a Democrat in 2007, and how dazzled I am by the slate of Democratic candidates in the 2008 race for the White House.

The Democratic party has seven outstanding, albeit quite different, candidates for the presidency. Each is bright, principled and articulate, and each advances progressive ideas worthy of our great country. Frankly, it's been decades since the Democratic party engaged in such a richly important public discussion of the issues facing our country.

I'll miss this liberal road show ensemble with its cast of unique Democratic characters... Hillary, Barack, John, Chris, Bill "Did you know that I'm a governor?" Richardson, Dennis (and his much-publicized "hot" wife), and jokester Joe Biden, who lent a comedic touch to all events. (Biden's post-D.C. second career should be in stand-up comedy.)

But all good things must end: the final DNC-sponsored debate will be held on December 10, 2007 in Los Angeles.

Who Won? Who Lost?
No one "won," and no one "lost" the CNN Democratic debate in Las Vegas. In fact, I doubt that any of the candidates drew or drove away any supporters based on this event.

A few highlights: Hillary Clinton didn't bobble answers as she did a few weeks ago. She strode the debate stage with confidence befitting a gladiator, and forcefully responded to all criticisms. She never initiated an attack on another candidate.

Barack Obama consistently offered thoughtful, brilliant responses, and appropriately challenged Sen. Clinton when her soundbites were misleading. I cheered loudly in agreement when Sen. Obama refused to submit to Wolf Blitzer's cynical, worst-case scenario "what if" questions.

Bill Richardson clearly has the best speech writers to capture the hearts of liberals. I nearly swooned when he found a way to wedge in, "All I want is to give peace a chance." I half-expected John Lennon's "Imagine" to swell in the background.

Lately, I leave these debates most admiring the deep experience and decades-long, proven leadership of Gov. Bill Richardson and Sen. Chris Dodd. And I'm always surprised that their candidacies haven't caught fire with Democrats.

Both Dodd and Richardson are outstanding Democratic leaders and public servants. And both would be superbly effective as President of the United States, and leader of the free world.

CNN Gives Sen. Clinton the Advantage
Whether by coincidence or pressure-caused design, the CNN Democratic debate in Las Vegas was hardly impartial.

As if to make-up for Tim Russert's bloody whacking of Hillary Clinton at the MSNBC debate a few weeks ago, CNN gifted Sen. Clinton with certain advantages over the other candidates. And even more maddening, the Clinton campaign camp brought new meaning to audience plants...

Rather than me prattle on, enjoy the following sampling of colorful comments from DailyKos about CNN's obvious Hillary Advantage:

  • "No matter who one supports, CNN handled this 'debate' in a wholly amateurish fashion."

  • "... And notice the only boos were when Obama and Edwards dared to disagree with Senator Clinton? More plants in the audience... ?"

  • "What about the booing, were those plants too?"

  • "By deputizing the audience, she (Hillary Clinton) didn't need to dodge. The audience muted the criticisms by booing the critics. Then Hillary could stay on message, no problem. Seriously, it was such ingenious strategy, but horrible horrible democracy."

  • "Alright...the next Hillary event we all go to and be in the audience and bring potted plants in backpacks. Then, when she starts to answer questions everyone just stand up and hold up your plant as high as you can."

  • "I noticed they (CNN) only had former Clinton employees or supporters commenting on the debate"

  • "Campbell Brown is married to some Republican operative. So two former Clinton aides and two Republicans think Clinton won. Big frigging surprise THAT is!'

  • "(CNN) Has been consistently pro-Clinton for a long time now. I first noticed their not-so-subtle support for her in September, and since then, it's grown almost unbearable. Tonight made me furious."

  • " I have to say this is a low point. The pro-Clinton forces were fierce on CNN tonight. It was all so transparent: the pre-debate setup, the management of the debate, and the pro-Clinton comments already in the can for the afterward.

    "And every single pundit had a Clinton connection. Or a Republican connection, like new hire Campbell Brown Senor, wife of Republican political operative, Dan Senor, who served a shameful stint in Iraq at the beginning of the blossoming freedom and democracy there. Senor now works for a firm whose purpose is to influence the news media. Got his wife hired at CNN----mission accomplished.

    "I thought the whole thing was a train wreck. CNN lost whatever pretense they had of objectivity. It was shameful and proof of the further decline in the integrity of our news media."

I have nothing to add to the last DailyKos commenter's eloquent summary of the CNN Democratic debate in Las Vegas.

(Talk Clock courtesy of the Chris Dodd for President campaign. )

Related Reading
Top Five Worst Moments of the MSNBC Democratic Debate
Clinton Falls, Edwards Rises in Whack-a-Mole Democratic Debate
Hillary in Las Vegas: An Asbestos Pantsuit and the Highest, Hardest Glass Ceiling
Obama vs. Clinton: Badly Playing the Gender Victimhood Card

Comments

November 16, 2007 at 5:12 pm
(1) Joe B says:

You have raised sour grapes to the level of an art form. You and the Obamaites are the biggest whiners in history. Its really quite unbecoming.

November 17, 2007 at 5:45 am
(2) Jack H W says:

What is progressive about Hilary? Her position on Iran? Her non position on most issues? She is part of the crowd that gave us the “alternative to the DNC, the DLC”, which includes Joe Lieberman who had to run as an independent to beat a real progressive, Lamont. It is the DLC that made it impossible to distinguish Dems from Reps

November 17, 2007 at 2:41 pm
(3) kim says:

i and all the people at my debate-watching party were pretty impressed with biden’s performance at this debate, and left it feeling like he and hillary tied the debate, edwards made irrelevant whine after irrelevant whine, and obama really cracked under pressure when he was heckled, and didn’t manage to make a legitimate statement for the rest of the night that wasn’t echoing what someone else had already said better.

it was interesting that he refused to address the interim on the nuclear waste question. the technology he was talking about just isn’t there yet, and i think it’s realistic and relevant to ask, until the technology’s done, what are you planning on doing with the waste? it’s a legitimate question, and something that’s really important, hardly defeatist. even though he gave a decent answer on the “how will you unite the country?” question, hillary gave a much better answer–notable considering she’s been pegged as “divisive.”

i didn’t know all that about the backgrounds of the questioners, and that’s really unfortunate. she really doesn’t need to do that, since her answers and plans are strong already.

nonetheless, i thought it was biden and hillary at the fore of this debate. kucinich made a great point about supporting the right thing at the right time was a nice snap. i didn’t hear much in terms of memorable, strong answers from richardson at all…

i was surprised to see my feelings on this one differed so drastically from yours, so thought i’d weigh in.

November 17, 2007 at 4:32 pm
(4) gris says:

In the Kingdom of the blind, the one eyed war monger is queen. Shrillary’s plants in the audience who booed Edwards takes her to new Hitlarian heights. Heil Hitlary.

November 17, 2007 at 5:04 pm
(5) usliberals says:

Kim writes about Sen. Clinton, “I didn’t know all that about the backgrounds of the questioners, and that’s really unfortunate. She really doesn’t need to do that, since her answers and plans are strong already.” I fully agree. That was my main point about her.

Joe Biden is also excellent presidential candidate. His knowledge and skills at foreign relations are much more formidable than any other candidate of all parties. I lean toward Dodd a bit more than Biden, though, becasue Dodd is more consistently and solidly progressive on domestic issues.

And I deeply respect Sen. Dodd for his heroic efforts to prevent immunity for the telecoms who conspired with Bush to illegally spy on U.S. citizens.

November 19, 2007 at 4:18 pm
(6) Jenny Bea says:

Yep. they’re all great. Even CNN. I mean, when we’re not being lied to.

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