From the always original Oliver Willis : "Lot of chatter about this Rolling Stone article discussing whether the ‘04 election was stolen. My philosophy on these things are: if we actually fought these elections, as Democrats, they couldn’t be stolen in the first place.
I don’t personally believe ‘04 was stolen, but the theft of 2000 was pretty clear. But its also kind of moot. There’s no undoing either election, and while the challenges from both Al Gore and John Kerry were not vigorous enough, if the margin of victory was better than 0.5% and 3% these things don’t matter at all. Yes, the Democratic party should have as one of its foundational elements that it fights for the right to have every vote counted - but those kinds of beliefs go nowhere if we lose elections in a squeaker."
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From the Botheration Log : " The Rolling Stone piece written by Robert F Kennedy Jr is a pretty interesting read. Could this mean the Dems are finally getting righteously angry and ready to fight? "
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From top blogger and liberal organizer David Swanson at Democrats.com: "If you've read Congressman Conyers report or Greg Palast's book or Mark Crispin Miller's book or if you had access to the internet in November and December of 2004, or if you follow Brad Blog, then you probably already know the answer to the question in the title of this new Rolling Stone article: Was the 2004 Election Stolen? The author is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and his conclusion: 'Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.'
Hmm. Where have I read this before -- 19 months ago?!"
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From Jason Tells the Truth at MySpace, writing about Mr. Kennedy's appearance on conservative Tucker Carlson's MSNBC program : "...Tucker Carlson continued an assault on Kennedy and his article throughout the short interview. Kennedy fights for time to respond and does a good job indicting the media (and Tucker) for ignoring a very obvious problem. Tucker responds by saying that if the stolen election were real then it would have been a news story -- as if truth and reality only exists if the media reports on it.
In the end, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., managed to remain poised and believable. This interview alone may have done little to prove to MSNBC's viewers that there is significant evidence of a stolen election -- but the piece did prove one thing to us: Tucker Carlson is a complete ass."
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And the last word is from blogger Quixote at Acid Test: "I feel better now. The 2004 presidential election was stolen. I thought this country had enough jerks to elect supporters of torture, illegal detention, warmongering, and profiteering. I thought there was no hope. But most people are neither evil nor crazy nor stupid. Democracy would have worked. The election was stolen.
The evidence summarized in Robert Kennedy Jr.'s Rolling Stone article overwhelmingly points to that conclusion....The whole (long!) article is more than worth reading. It's essential....
So it's worth thinking about how the election could have been stolen. Then...we can act against it in the future....Whatever the cure for the fix we're in, finding and applying it is not optional. Without it, we're not going to have government for the greatest good of the greatest number, but government for the greatest good of the greatest gangsters."
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